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been said about this pledge and i will tell you, when i go to the constituents that re-elected me, it is not about that pledge. it really is about trying to solve problems. and so if right now the question is, how do you do that? well, john boehner went to the white house ten days ago and said republicans in the house are willing to put revenues on the table. that was a big move, right? >> a big move? huh? the gop has always been open to raising revenue. governor romney even promised to do that. it seems awfully similar to what speaker boehner offered a year ago during debt talks. >> we have an agreement on a revenue number. there was an agreement on some additional revenues. >> i stuck my neck out a mile and i put revenues on the table. >> revenues on the table? the gop is essentially offering the same thing they did a year ago. plus, they want to keep tack rates for the wealthy the same. they want to cut entitlements, postpone pentagon cuts, and now they are putting health care on the table. mr. cantor says the gop has presented a big move. nah. losing an election is big. i'm st
said about this pledge and i will tell you when i go to the constituents that have elected and re-elected me, it is not about that pledge. it really is about trying to solve problems. >> the majority of those who distanced themselves from norquist so far have been senate gop members, not house gop members. do you think that speaker boehner and congressman cantor, do you think they can make any leeway with the caucus on a tax increase? >> well, only time will tell. this is the big question. you're asking the big question because the speaker has set the right tone. now it is time for the right substance. now it is time for the speaker to put his plan on the table. after all, the president hasn't been secret about his plan. the president's plan is there for everybody to see, every american can go to the president's budget plan to see his combination of tax increases on the wealthy in addition to cuts, but speaker boehner has again set the right tone but so far hasn't come up with any substance. >> which entitlements if any are democrats prepared to put on the reform table? >> well, democrats
-faced. it has to do -- people at headquarters, they show up at election night, unless the guy or woman loses and they get excited about the guy near election night because they want a job. they want something. they want to be loved by the winner. then they treat the guy like a ticket at off-track betting on the floor you're stomping around on. is that the best case against the case being made against the republican party, it's a bunch of people just not loyal? that's what he's saying. >> absolutely, chris. look, i've been through this time and time again, that people are measuring the drapes before the first debate ends, especially if the nominee does a very good job. >> now they're measuring the crepe. >> true. mitt romney unfortunately never had any -- a loyal following, if you will, except for the folks in boston. the conservatives never trusted him. they didn't even trust him when he got the republican nomination back in the spring of this year. the point is these individuals are opportunists, both on the republican side and also on the democratic side. they don't care about loyalty. the
't quite get readers as excited? >> not as titillating. >> this is what the election was fought over and yet i have the impression that a lot of the country is yawning but really many of the journalists covering the story are oning. >> there's a story about low how the mighty are falling. privacy, security, while covering the sex. >> are you suggesting that the bigger issues are actually a bit of a shall we say figure lea le? there are bigger issues there but the problem is the fiscal cliff is extremely important. it's interesting to me that it's ben bernanke who dubbed it. i would have thought a reporter would have dubbed it. >> as a consumer of newses, when you see stories about the fiscal cliff do you go clicking off to someone else? >> no. i don't. i try. i try my darnest. i pick up the stories and think i'm going to understand it for once. it's a big, big story if you're covering economic on a national stage. i think it is getting covered a lot yochl ku. blame the media if readers are going to be clicking more or turning more to story about petraeus. >> the problem wo budget sto
of these games of chicken and scenarios is that we had an election and it was pretty clear. the democrats won. obama is back in. and one of the clearest issues in that election was that taxes should be raised and raised on the rich. that gives the president even more leverage. i think the president has enormous leverage. if we do go over the cliff in terms of tacks? we go back to the clinton tax rates, which as i remember it, were not so onerous. they certainly were pretty good in terms of the economy. the economy did not suffer. the economy did much better under clinton than bush. i don't think at least on the tax side, going over the cliff is that big of a deal. it's not really a cliff at all as you suggested and if we get major cuts in the military and defense spending, i'm not sure that's a bad idea at all. >> now, joy reid, we all deal with being dumped in different ways. that is the choice grover has made tonight on cnn. let's watch. >> i don't see any movement toward ts republicans wanting to raise taxes or people wanting to break their pledge. in fact, to be fair to everybody, some of
the election about the fiscal cliff. what is at stake here for both sides? what happens if they don't get a deal? >> well, look. i think what happens to both sides, it's not even what happens to both sides, what happens to us which is the collective, right? it's what happens to the country which is 4% of gdp disappears overnight. and that's what this is all about. by the way, it's not just about what happens january 1st or 11:59 the day before january 1st. it's already starting to impact the economy. whether it impacts consumers -- and we'll find out today, by the way, in terms of thanksgiving and what's that meant, whether consumers are coming out or not -- but thoorz the bigger issue that manufacturing has already started to slow down. people are starting to worry. it may end up in the economic numbers already, just the fact that we're having this debate. and then come january 1st, do we go over? what does that mean? is it the fiscal cliff? or does it look like the fiscal bungee cord? that's what some people are calling it. we go over for two weeks and then we snap back and get a deal a
-to-face meeting since the election and oh, to be a fly on the wall. makes you wonder if they'll be talking about this, the austerity crisis, better known as the fiscal cliff facing washington and the country. this hour president obama will speak live at the white house flanked by middle-class families whose household budgets depend on congress reaching a deal by january 1st. his latest effort to use his bully pulpit. nearby on capitol hill, both parties are meeting behind closed doors at this very minute. each side hashing out where they are willing to compromise and where they are drawing the line in the sand. >>> the other big story we're watching for you, a second round of sitdowns for united nations ambassador susan rice, who's in an all-out campaign of her own to face her critics. after three republicans issued blistering comments yesterday, this morning rice is meeting with republican senator susan collins of maine and in an hour is expected to meet with senator bob corker of tennessee. rice's harshest krit eks are still vowing to block her potential nomination as next secretary of state.
three collapsed in this election in 2012. and now they've got to decide which of them is strong enough to survive. now, my personal theory is that the business wing was always the strongest wing and will be the surviving wing. you can hear that in this talk of loosening immigration. i think they're the ones who are going to try to assert themselves, but that's across purposes with the tea party wing that is dead set against immigration. so they're all cross-purposes. >> don't trust the good will of the business community. and by the way, the labor unions ought to be jumping out there organizing everybody comes into the country legal or not. secondly, the business community doesn't want real immigration. >> they want low wages. >> they want to get them in here as fast and as cheap as they can. let me go to john about history. you and i remember i think back in 1988, the democrats had won a race. now, this is a race -- the key thing is not that you lose. they didn't lose by a huge amount. it's when you lose when you think you're going to win. that's when you rethink your party. just line
. these are four state department workers who knew the dangers of what they were involved in. they elected to be there. it is a tragic loss of life, but it's not one that we, you know, obviously as the senator said, this is a terrible intelligence failure. but what is the case moving forward? now that rice has gone up there and done her due diligence with meeting three of her harshest critics, how does she move on from this if she is the one, again, by these three senators be pinned with, well, she was wrong the whole time? >> thomas, that's a good question. i would say that the focus here, i really think should be on what happened catching these terrorists and making sure it doesn't happen again. and i think with this overheated rhetoric, we're missing the point, and that is to really investigate the security around the consulate and then what happened afterwards. and i think that's where we should be focusing our energy. i think that, look, if the president chooses to nominate her to be secretary of state, she's very well qualified. she should be able to receive a fair hearing from in th
. president obama's re-election means the taxes for upper income earners are going up one way or another. speaker john boehner deserves some leeway to try to mitigate the damage by negotiating a larger tax reform. leeway to negotiate sounds pretty sane to me. for some, of course, that's a great big lump of coal wrapped up as an early christmas present. >> revenue that happens to be the democratic code word for tax increases. that is simply not an acceptable position for any true conservative. republicans were not elected to rubber stamp obama's agenda. >> seems some news personalities may be taking a tax increase on the highest earners somewhat personally. anyway, republicans didn't win the white house or the senate. i wonder what other conservatives have to say about that. >> the republicans are in a shocking amount of disarray right now. the republican party has not developed an alternative idea set other than what mitt romney and paul ryan were campaigning on and sort of by default it has become their opening negotiation position. >> i see. so their opening position is the one that wa
for the president or could a fiscal cliff deal on top of re-election get him any political capital to flex some political muscle? >> well, i hope it was the latter. i was at the white house when the republicans took down clinton's nominee. i watched as they took down senator tower who was to become the republican secretary of defense. both parties do this unfortunately after an election. the losing party almost seeming to want some sort of sacrificial lam out there. i hope this, that what this nation most wants is to have trust once again in washington, d.c. it's a part of the program down in washington that doesn't seem to be there. while i have great respect for senator mccain who threatened to filly buster this. i couldn't have done what he did as a prisoner of war. as a fellow naval officer. i would ask him accountability for the overall public good not the party. i hope that unless he can show with firmness that there is a fact, there is some sort of issue out there that really isn't a political assertion, a partisan issue, that he is an american before he is a partisan. let's move on. ame
a democratically elected autocrat take the place of an undemocratically elected dictator. on the other hand, there are some real pluses possible here. if egypt takes some real responsibility for making the cease-fire work, we'll stop those missiles from going through the tunnels in gaza, and they seem to be moving in that direction. that can make a real difference in terms of what's going on in gaza and their attacks on israel, which have been the cause of the whole thing. >> what would you like to see the president say, to put a brake on morsi seizing power? what words does the president have to use to say we're not going back to mubarak? >> he has to express those concerns and say, obviously, we want this change to not just be democratic but also supportive of stability and also protecting minorities and human rights in egypt. he says that, but at the same time he has to point out that behind all of this is iran. iran's support of hamas, hezbollah, syria, and the way that has been filtered into weaponry that goes through egypt, into gaza, if that can be stopped, by egypt, and if iran can
congress so, while the election may have changed the atmosphere and sort of the story line for the members, the actual people themselves are still there. so they've not changed their ideologies at all. i think that the problem is that you have john boehner, president and mitch mcconnell negotiating with the exact same congress that they had when they couldn't make a deal the last time. so i think until the personnel change, i'm not sure you can get a deal. >> and juan kessler, the fact checker for "the washington post," has reported that, you know, you have to come from, like, some point point. you have to have a negotiating point to start with. he said democrats and republicans haven't even agreed on a baseline yet. they're about $3 trillion apart because of ending the wars, medicare, other cuts. so how do you come to some agreement in what is a numbers game really if you don't even have a number to start with? >> i think one of the things we'll see happen here is the idea of a grand bargain, of one deal that gets all this stuff averted between now and -- it's not going to happen. it does
. >> the election's over. he won. congratulations. >> if we can get a few house republicans to agree as well -- >> we all agree but we're not going to raise taxes on people that make less than $250,000. we should take them out of this discussion. >> i've got a pen. i'm ready to sign it. >> he's got the republicans on the ropes and they know it. >> obama's answer to this budget crisis is to raise taxes on the wealthy just because he ran on that promise. and won the election. >> the president really wants to reach an agreement, he needs to be talking with the members of his own party right here in washington. >> it's too important for washington to screw this up. we really need to get this right. ♪ how do you like me now ♪ ♪ how do you like me now ♪ >> good afternoon, it is difficult to hold down the excitement here in new york. it is a growing frenzy that everyone's talking about. there are fantasies of celebration, if the numbers go their way. there are teams pooling resources. there's talk of high stakes and long odds. no, it's not the powerball lottery. it's the fiscal cliff. just
of the secretary of state on one side and the democratically elected muslim brotherhood president of egypt on the other is a new post-arab spring development which bodes very well because there was always a question, the muslim brotherhood with its anti-israel, anti-western ideology, taking power in egypt whether they would live up to the commitments of the peace treaty and use their influence in a positive way over that other muslim brother hood faction which is hamas. the muslim brotherhood is a generator of hamas. we have them using their influence in this way, as the united states used its influence in israel, obama spoke to netanyahu and told him you need to sign this, he said he was happy to do that. there you have a very good foundation for what needs to be done next which is once we get through the immediate cease-fire, how to stabilize the situation in a way that makes life normal for both israelis and palestinians and that's clearly going to have to be on the agenda. otherwise this will not be a long-lasting cease-fire. >> james zogby. >> life won't be normal for people in gaza o
're really going to draw the line and say, we're not going to reopen that debate. we won the election, so sorry, john. that said, there are specific programs in there that might be part of the spending negotiations that take place. >> you know, kristen, politically speaking, doesn't this add another wrinkle to an already difficult negotiation process ahead? >> i think it absolutely does. i think to some extent speaker boehner might be sending a message to republicans in his conference, making the point that, look, just because the president won the election we're not going to roll over on all of the issues that we care about. it's hard to see he has a whole lot of leverage on this issue. you heard speaker boehner tone down his rhetoric after the supreme court ruled it was in fact constitutional. and now president obama has won reelection. the president, the white house, democrats on the hill are saying this issue is a nonstarter. it's hard to see where he finds leverage on this issue. unless he tries to go for some of the smaller issues like medicaid spending. but i think this is going to
weeks ago when john boehner after the election essentially said, there's nothing we can do about obama care. it's going into effect next year. people are going to have to start enrolling, those exchanges are going to have to get up and running. he saw a revolt among his house republicans and republicans across the united states, just for saying it. now john boehner is doing a little backtracking. he wrote in the cincinnati enquirer, his hometown newspaper, the president's health care law adds a massive, expensive, unworkable government program at a time when our national debt already exceeds the size of our country's entire economy. we can't afford it and we can't afford to leave it intact. so try as they might, remember the last congress republicans passed a lot of bills out of the house of representatives that tore apart obama care. as even the president calls it now. they didn't go anywhere in the senate and meanwhile, alex, after the thanksgiving break, the principles are expected to get back together to begin negotiating in earnest. as you're right the clock is ticking. just a lit
is elected. despite the protests, morsi moving ahead with his plans at the same time insisting that his new powers are for the good ofu issued a statement moments ago saying in part, quote, we call for calm and encourage all parties to work together and call for all egyptians to resolve their differences over these important issues peacefully and through democratic dialogue. jim maceda will join us coming up in 20 minutes right here. >>> turning from egypt now to the border between israel and gaza where a two-day cease fire is already being tested. israeli troops shot and killed a 20-year-old man on the gaza side of the line today. the first death since the truce. nbc news reporting that the man was trying to get to his family farm. we have coverage from both sides of the border today with nbc's gaza. fletcher in israel and what's the israeli government saying about what happened at the border today, if anything? >> reporter: well, they are talking but not much. they are saying that the troops were stationed at the border about 300 palestinians came towards the border fence, further than is
out before the election. i am against it. [laughter] liberals have been the primary practitioner and a start with ratio demagoguery when every police shooting where the black kid was treated suddenly the klan had taken over the police force. they are finn natgas of various poses and mike trayvon martin they just dusts -- disappear with the facts came out you never see the final article attention readers, that story we have been hysterical about. [laughter] actually he was muddying the copper ore he did ambush because they would disappear from the news. one of the best of my coat was called to become artist it takes a dozen cops to subdue him two weeks later he was in a comment if he dies of pneumonia say they he died as a result of police brutality. the cops are put on trial for manslaughter and are acquitted the "new york times" the editorial was remembering my goal that no justice could be done now flashed to the rosenbaum case with all sharpton who has many cameo appearances. i have forgotten everything he was involved in. [laughter] and once put on trial and there was sick a
weeks after the longest, most expensive and exhausting election in u.s. history eyes are turning to 2016 as speculation begins over the next batch of candidates lining up to run for president. >> who could that be? i know it's going to be a surprise. >> i know it is too. we're moving past these dynasties. >> exactly. >> of ruled politics for decades. republican up and comer jeb bush jr. says he would love to see his dad run for president, and rand paul says he's going to follow in his pop's footsteps too and hillary is going to run too. do you have to be related to somebody who has been president of the united states or run for president of the united states to actually do that yourself? >> i think that's what makes the names. here's jeb jr. >> your dad going to run for president? >> i don't know. no comment. i certainly hope so. >> which is it, i don't know or no comment? >> i think it's the i hope so. >> you said, i don't know, no comment, and i hope so, which are all kind of contradictory. >> give me the full loaf of bread right there. >> word is out of florida jeb is lining up for 20
an election. >> ambassador rice said today absolutely it was wrong. i don't understand the cia said clearly that information was wrong. and they knew by the 22nd it was wrong. yet, they have not cleared that up with the american people. >> in a statement just now, susan rice admits that the initial information about a protest in benghazi was incorrect, but says no one intended to mislead the public. business as usual, congress is back and picks up just where it left off. stalemated over tax rates and entitlement spending. >> unfortunately, there's one obstacle standing between congress and compromise, grover norquist. for years, norquist has bullied lawmakers willing to put their oath of office or promise to serve constituents ahead of their pledge to this anti-tax zell lot. >> the washington democrats, every dollar that's ever been secured for anything is sacred. every dollar secured for anything is sacred. and they'll defend it to the death regardless of what it means for jobs, or the economy. >>> coming up here, the it's top economic adviser alan krueger. clashes in cairo today, more pro
coverage. a private meeting between the two of them. i think it's designed to say the election is over, mitt romney did win about 47.5% of the vote of the american public, a recognition of that fact and recognition by the president if there is a grand bargain to be done he's going to need the help of republicans. i don't know how much mitt romney will play a role in that. i think mitt romney this is the guy i beat, he represents a significant constituency that voted against me, we're going to bring him in and talk to him. i don't expect much substantive to come to it. symbolism, saying the election is over and move on and work for the country. >> it is symbolic. we've seen this drama before, but in the past it's been with a republican nominee who frankly carries more political weight within his own party and held a constituency there. in this case he's not elected to anything, not a sitting senator, a defeated presidential candidate but someone who still plays a role in politics. this is about sending a signal of niceness and appealing to higher angels we as a country can move on. >> m
. after the election, the speaker did say increased revenues were acceptable if coupled with entitlement reform. but will it be supported in the house? that's where grover is seen as more of a legend than a lobbyist. some are signaling the tax debate does not start and end with this old pledge. eric cantor, who was adamant last time about opposing any revenue increase hit that note on msnbc just this morning. >> there's a lot that has been said about this pledge, and i will tell you when i go to the constituents that have re-elected me, it is not about that pledge, it really is about trying to solve problems. john boehner went to the white house ten days ago and said republicans in the house were willing to put revenues on the table. that was a big move. >> by the standards of republican politics, ben, that was a big move. and eric cantor is doing something pretty important there. i just want to say before we go into all of the nitty-gritty details, tell us about what it means for eric cantor to basically reposition this conversation away from grover norquist, who as i said is something
norquist. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge i made tennesseans aware is just elected that the only thing i'm honoring is the oath that i take when i serve when i'm sworn in this january. >> there's a lot that has been said about this pledge, and i will tell you when i go to the constituents that have elected -- re-elected me, it is not about that pledge. it really is about trying to solve problems. >> when you're $16 trillion in debt, the only pledge we should be making to each other is to avoid becoming greece, but i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> sounds great, doesn't it? only one problem, this apparent kiss-off to the anti-tax guru appears to be pure lip service. as mr. norquist himself expressed this morning in somewhat colorful language. >> no pledge taker has voted for a tax increase. we've had some people discussing impure thoughts on national television. we would certainly highlight who has kept their commitment and who hasn't. >> yet, so far those impure thoughts have not crossed into taboo te
your house. the only thing they can do is defeat for you re-election by throwing some coo-coo from the left or right on you and if that means more than your country when it's extremity patriots instead of panderer, you shouldn't even be in the damn congress. >> tonight chris matthews delivers your daily dose of political analysis from the nation's capital. don't miss hardball with chris matthews weekdays at 5:00 and 7:00 eastern only on msnbc, the place for politics. >>> elsewhere on the hill, u.n. ambassador susan rice spent her day behind closed doors explaining statements she made back this september about the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in libya. however as brian mooar reports, her defense failed to convince her republican critics. >> reporter: embattled u.n. ambassador susan rice went to capitol hill to explain what they knew and now knows about the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in libya. but she failed to silence her republican critics. >> all i can tell you, that the concerns i have are greater today than they were before and we're not even close to getting the
. >> the gop post election fallout continues on a couple fronts. >> the fiscal cliff is getting shorter and shorter. >> voters agreed with me on this issue. >> more than congressional republicans. >> we don't understand. >> americans didn't vote for dysfunction. >> the voters agreed with me on this issue. >> they voted for government that works. >> we don't understand why raising tax rates is the solution. >> can party leaders get a deal? >> impossible. >> all this talk about taxing the rich is nonsense. >> grover norquist. >> you speak of grover norquist. >> he's an entertaining warrior. >> pledge mentality is really on the run right now. >> speaker boehner clearly wants a deal. >> he can't have one arm tied behind his back. >> the top 1%, only 42% of the wealth. >> 48.5 million people lived below the poverty level. >> we should ask the wealthy to start paying their fair share. >> the american sense of fairness, no one should pay more than 25%. >> today's republican party has imploded. >> they are in denial. >> they are looking for someone to blame. >> grover is no longer speaking for
is going to be your friend every time on every issue. he's elected in a free and democratic election. we ought to be dealing with him. we are. the president appears to have established a good relationship with him and, remember, continuation of the peace agreement with israel, while very much in israel's strategic interest, is also important to egypt. they have a very difficult time in economic terms, and let's not forget that the revolution there was indigenous, it was local and it was, in large part, over domestic issues, jobs, education, health care, what concerns people everywhere. he needs a stable situation there. he needs to concentrate on economic growth, providing jobs. he obviously has to recognize and acknowledge public opinion, which is an important factor there as here. but, for now, i think it's a positive step. what he's done with respect to the ceasefire. >> you saw a reporter in gaza who talked about the many celebrations throughout the day on thursday there. has hamas emerged stronger from this last eight days of the conflict? there are those who suggest that's the case
's not seeking a position in the next cabinet after the election. does this signal anything about the situation vis-a-vis iran since he was one of the most hawkish of the cabinet members on iran? >> no doubt it reflects i'm sure a set of personal considerations for him, but the fact is he has been the architect of the options vis-a-vis iran, he has been the one who basically has outlined why it has to be dealt with, even though he wants to put it in the context of close u.s./israeli relations. ultimately israel has to find a way to deal with it either on its own or with us. >> israel has talked about a ship that's loaded with rockets potentially heading to gaza. so is there another crisis brewing? where do we stand with the cease-fire, where both sides seem to be testing each other the last few days? >> i believe the cease-fire in fact is going to hold. if you look at all three parties who were involved in it aside from the united states, who i think did play a pivotal role at the end. president morsi, the last thing he needs is for something he brokered to break down. it enhances his power. he
that president obama essentially has the leverage in the situation. not only did he win the election having run on a platform of increasing taxes on wealthier americans, if you look at the polls a majority of americans actually agree with him on that issue. as you know, president obama invited congressional leaders to the white house last week. they struck a rare tone of bipartisanship after that meeting. then as you point out, seems like both sides sort of went back to their respective corners and democrats really digging in their heels on entitlements, republicans digging in their heels on the issue of taxes. we're told that aids on the hill are trying to work through a couple of compromise scenarios, especially on the issue of taxes, that would essentially allow taxes to go up on wealthier americans without increasing the rates. there are a couple of ways that you can do this. one would be to roll back tax breaks that will wealthier americans get. another idea is to possibly tax higher income earners on the lump sum of their salaries. so they're sort of batting some of those ideas back and f
on a grand bargain and more recently in his first post-election press conference. >> we have to continue to take a serious look at how we reform our entitlements because health care costs continue to be the biggest driver of our deficits. >> reporter: mr. obama has insisted that in any deal, tax rates on the wealthy must rise. but a top democrat signaled openness to the republican stance. revenue can be raised by closing loopholes and limiting deductions. >> they have to go up either real tax rates or effective tax rates. there's ways of doing that. >> reporter: with the clock ticking and markets getting nervous, talks begin again this week amid tentative steps toward common ground. >> we can't go off the fiscal cliff. we have to show the world we're adults. the election is over. >> nbc's mike viqueira reporting. >>> overseas to egypt where the country's newly elected leader has granted himself unchecked power sparking days of clashes and sending the country's stock market into a freefall. our reporter is in cairo with the very latest. ayman, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. egyp
seeking re-election. >>> and now for a look at your national weather, let's turn to nbc meteorologist bill karins. he's tracking that weather channel forecast. good morning to you, bill. >> sensitive topic when you start comparing storms to katrina and all these. >> it does. >> it's like any big event. >> absolutely. >> yeah, over 1,000 people died and monetarily there's issued. every storm is different as we learned with sandy and all the other big hurricanes that have hit this country. we're not dealing with anything too bad today. if you have travel plans on the east coast, pay attention because as you go to work, no issues. but as you come home, you could be doing it in the snow in a few spots. we're going to watch temperatures closely because notice how cold it is up there in albany, hartford and boston. in any snow does fall, it probably wouldn't accumulate on the pavement. still hovering around 40. so whatever falls should melt throughout the morning and especially during the afternoon. here's the winter radar. this is our little weak storm. the white shows you where the snow is. th
off by possibly electing a bush when you have history of bush for eight years, clinton for eight years, obama for eight years, another bush when there was actually, you know -- well, wait, bush, clinton, bush, obama, bush. >> that's probably due for another obama. i think bush like christie is a republican who has crossover appeal. he has tremendous support among hispanics because of his position on immigration reform. tonight i'm going to be with governor bush. we are doing an event in washington talking about the need for educational reform as a big national security challenge unless we get k-12 education right, we're now not going to get this country right. and the fact that someone like jeb bush has become one of the principal champions of education reform has shown me how republicans can have appeal if they go beyond the narrow agenda. >> what do you think? >> i think he has enormous appeal. he's a very attractive candidate. and as richard pointed out, he is not the republican candidate we've seen in the past couple of elections. i mean, he has enormous appeal to the hispanic comm
since the election. there's no doubt about it. i think john, you'd verify this. number of republicans, i've talked to a couple of united states senators who said there's at least 10 to 12 republican senators who are willing to walk away from grover norquist on the tax pledge. >> it's breaking out all over. sanity is contagious. >> now, the question is, is the president going to stay where he is and go, you know what? we're going to do it my way or no other way? we're going to raise it to 90 -- to 39.6%. steve rattner had a great column yesterday. >> it's a must-read. >> you know there's more than one way to skin a cat, more than one way to raise over a trillion dollars in revenues. it doesn't just have to be the president's way. is the white house going to insist on the 39.6% tax rate, or will they consider the loophole part of it plus capital gains, plus a couple of other things? >> well, it looks to me like the white house has learned something over the course of the last four years which is that you don't start a negotiation by negotiating against yourself. >> right. >> you know, the
election day when you're the active president. p.j. will stay with us as we turn to another discussion right on point with president obama's foreign policy team. many republicans are attacking ambassador susan rice, a top candidate to replace secretary of state clinton. the senate has spiked some key nominations from president obama before, from elizabeth warren to nobel peace prize winner peter diamond. there is one number that suggests obama is likely to win this battle. we will look at the math after the break on "now." so you say men are superior drivers? yeah. then how'd i get this... [ voice of dennis ] ...safe driving bonus check? every six months without an accident, allstate sends a check. ok. [ voice of dennis ] silence. are you in good hands? [ male announcer ] it's that time of year. time for campbell's green bean casserole. you'll find the recipe at campbellskitchen.com. ♪ campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. olaf gets great rewards for his small business! pizza! [ garth ] olaf's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! helium delivery. put i
and that has been consistent throughout this election season. i'm bullish. i don't know if it's the turkey or the drink or the redskins victory yesterday affecting me here but i'm bullish that there will be a solution. you have three dynamics here at play. you have a president who is significantly stronger, i think, speaker boehner is stronger inside of his conference. you have republican governors, people like bill kristol who seem to be saying positive things, encouraging things on tax rates which provide a permission slip for republican legislators to be supportive. and then i think the tone inside of washington is markedly different than a year and a half ago on both sides. >> it can all come down to the wording, though, robert, and one of the sticking points remains revenue versus taxes. "the new york times" reports negotiators are looking heavily at the idea of making the wealthy pay more by eliminating their deductions. then you keep the rates the same. so is this a solution that might make everyone happy? democrats say they raise taxes on the wealthy. >> yes, that's exactly what ha
this many times, presidential elections are referendums on the incumbent party and in that vein such as the case as i believe it is, then you have to say that it's a judge to by the electorate was not a tremendous perhaps lackluster but not so as to make him ineligible for rehiring. second, when the country is in a serious political deadlock of the kind that we are in now and it's happened in our history but it doesn't happen often it generally means that the deadlock is focused on a definition question of america, and the definition question faced in this country is that we are going to go towards a european style of social democracy or more towards the traditional conservative populism of jackson or ronald reagan. third, when the country manages to deal with such a deadlock or change such a deadlock as this it doesn't come to any other means. so you have a lot of red and that may be a good harbinger for your party but it doesn't say anything about how the country is going to move forward in terms of what you promote. so given all of that if you buy any of it, to what extent do
secretary of state and the president, don't you think. >> i do think that. 15 days after the election they probably supported mitt romney in the election. we as the republican party do need to be the party that has a big tent for the whole spectrum. part of that is recognizing when the president does things that are good. he did in the first term, not a lot, but killing osama bin laden was a success and he will in this term. this is a positive but a positive he has to build on. he can't just rest on his morals with this because right now hamas is celebrating, what are they celebrating? 162 palestinians have died. >> they have a very low bar to create celebration, that israel has a higher bar for that. but richard, during the presidential campaign, mitt romney tried to make much of president obama's frosty relationship with benjamin netanyahu. those two worked to the with a much warmer relationship, is there any evidence of a frost that exists really? >> quite the contrary. i think what this episode showed with the -- let's remember that president obama from all exit polls won the jewi
. their first sit down since the election november 6. tonight's record-breaking powerball jackpot is now up to $550 million. people lining up across the country for their chance to hit it big. if you think you're going to become an instant millionaire, here's a sobering stat. the odds are one in 175 million. those are your headlines. back to you. lori: thank you. melissa: are you sharing your lottery winnings with me? lori: yesterray i was on the fence, but i've decided i should be generous. melissa: in the summer knight capital was fighting for it survival after aaron's trading wiped out money from the balance sheet. but they find themselves in the middle of a bidding war as high frequency trading outfit tries to outbid their arrival. who has the advantage? which has the advantage. >> we report, you decide. i will lay ouu a couple of things. convincing the board to accept an all cash. from $3 plus. we don't know what the plus is, that could be a big thing. they're looking to do this by telling the board members, who actually like the ceo, tom joyce. he corralled the new investors when they
at that amount of money that was spent on all the election campaigns, all of them, $6 billion. now, i was shocked by that. i moderated a discussion the other morning between karl rove and james car vill and rove's reaction -- >> how lucky can one guy be? [laughter] >> it was actually -- it was fascinating. but mr. rove made the point that we spend infinitely more than that on dog food. >> that's absurd. >> yes, it is, it is. because, as much as i have always loved our pets and loved pets in general, the fact of the matter is, if our elections end up being reduced to the snarling and shouting and innuendo, you know, people keep saying, things were worse in jefferson's time. yes, they were. but you only had broad sheets that were being distributed. you didn't have everyone walking around with his or her own little communications device. information now is spread so ubiquitously, is spread so quickly, so instantaneously, that if we don't have reliable, trustworthy, objective sources of information, then our whole electoral structure is going to collapse of its own weight. >> you know, ted, there was
communities, which turned out in record numbers voted for and we made the difference in this election despite the fact that some states and a lot of people tried everything in the book to keep us from voting. so we do have some work ahead of us and i want to highlight a few things we can do. first of the debate over the fiscal class i'm a to ensure working families or protect it, which means that eviscerated the programs that help support working families including workforce investment and important training programs. we need to stress that this is not just an issue for our communities, before the country country. since african-americans, asian americans and latinos make up one third of the u.s. workforce today, a figure which will skyrocket in years to come. second, investing in the future of children. african-american and latino kids are the workforce of the future to the investments we make now will pay out dividends when i really need to in the decades to come as the baby boomers start to retire. they key is better education and especially important issues giving the communities of color
it wrong leading up to election day. the editor in chief for gallop whiched so mitt romney with a bigger lead admits gallup might have overestimated the get-out-the-oat efforts. >>> it's time for a geography quiz. put on your thinking caps. what is the name of this country? all right. if you said mexico, then you were wrong. our neighbors to the south actually go by the official title estados unidos mexicanos which is translated the united mexican states. but felipe calderon is making one last attempt to change the official name to mexico. >>> you weren't the only one tweeting out thanksgiving pictures. cindy mccain grabbed this picture of her husband john mccain. he's in the green cap getting ready to deep fry a turkey. and senator marco rubio is showing off his bird. this is his bird ready to eat. the obama campaign tweeted this black and white picture to mark the holiday showing a much younger first family. and that is your morning dish of "scrambled politics." >>> investors had the day off for thanksgiving and the ones who aren't out shop having to go back to work today. the u.s. mar
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